Julius Caesar is not Jupiter or greater than Jupiter. Caesar Octavian Augustus is not Jupiter or greater than Jupiter. I am unable to think Caligula and Nero were up for the Mount Rushmore of Caesars as Gods. Julius Caesar and Caesar Octavian Augustus were not Sol Invictus or greater than Sol Invictus. Julius Caesar and Caesar Octavian Augustus did not create the nebula from which the Sun was created. Julius Caesar and Caesar Octavian Augustus did not create the Earth or one species of animal. Virgil has compared Octavian with the founder of Rome in the Aenid. An emperor cannot be deified as high as Mother Earth or Creator Sun, creator of its Planets. However, Jesus is shot higher than the founding of a country-empire–shot beyond Augustus and Caesar. Jesus could not even win the Jewish Revolt. Jesus is hardly greater than Herod the Great with respect to building beautiful cities and temples. Josephus got Titus to take a man down from the cross. That man survived crucifixion. Without earthly laurels, Jesus becomes the Osirian Lord of the Resurrection. Yes, Salvation is iconic in the human experience, but Jesus did not save Jerusalem, he didn’t save the Temple. Even if we go with the idea that one of the composite characters of the biblical Mary and Jesus, Mother and Child is Queen Helena and King Izates who DID save Jerusalem from a famine, that’s like a losing football score of 105 to 7 (15 touchdowns and field goals) to one. Combine that with taking a man down from the cross before he is so dead he’s beyond having a Near Death Experience and we give Jesus the right to STEAL Lord of the Resurrection from the Osiris cult, you still do not have Jesus as equal to God.
Fine. immortalizing Paul-Josephus’ achievement of getting Titus to give him permission to revive Jesus mythologizes Jesus beyond a Julius or an Octavian but Hades (brother of Zeus, not the place) was no Jupiter, Zeus, Athena, or Cronus. So, Christianity is not the highest plateau of theology. Sorry.
If historical Jesus scholars believes that Jesus’ main message was the imminent apocalypse, and that didn’t happen, how can anyone who believe that remain a Christian, given that Jesus was wrong on the main focus of his life?
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I’m a historical Jesus personal essayist whose work is entitled Insights on the Exodus, King David, and Jesus / The Greatest Bible Study in Historical Accuracy. The second edition may be completed in 2014 for publication.
Apocalypse simply means End-Time Scenario. Suffice it to say that an apocalypse did happen at Ground Zero Jerusalem. Who can seriously think this did not happen? Temple Judaism came to an end. Jerusalem was destroyed by Rome and renamed.
Did something better replace Temple Judaism? Jesus said something better would come after the apocalypse.
When humans commit sins against high aspirations of humanity, the killings of a pigeons, lambs, bulls are very indirect rectifications of the sin/s for which the killings were made. If a criminal commits the crime of stealing, how is sacrificing an animal more important than repenting (John the Baptist), asking forgiveness (Jesus’ Our Father Prayer) and returning to the victim the object that was stolen? He should not have been stealing in the first place (Ten Commandments – Moses).
Jesus was wrong?
How much guilt and sorrow has been laid at Humanity given the biblical story of Jesus which teaches it is an atrocity to convict the innocent. Plato’s Apology ranks second to Jesus’ trial in which the story ends with regret and sorrow over the death of the innocent. In Western Civilization, we are somewhat civilized by these teachings that society is not better off when the innocent and good person’s life is put to death.
The main focus of Jesus’ life was not the end time scenario of Jerusalem (its destruction after the Jewish Revolt).
So, in addition to Homeric overtones in the Gospel of Mark, we have a Pythagorean sacred number in the Gospel of John. Jesus comes confronts Paul for Hellenistic Christian persecution–the martyr of Stephen. And Jesus tells Hebrew leaders: it’s in your law, not our law. Educated Hellenistic Jews would not only know the literature of Ancient Greece (Homer) but also the math of Pythagoras. The Gospels were written in Greek.
1. Jesus was a Hellenistic Jew
2. While the Gospel according to Matthew and perhaps the Gospel according to Luke make Jesus Jewish, the Gospels of Mark and John stamp Hellenism onto the Jesus story.
Christianity is not just an outgrowth of Egypto-Judaic influences but Egypto-Greco-Judaic influences.
In reference to the post to which I’m replying, I binged/googled “Pythagoras and 153 fish and found this: http://greatdreams.com/numbers/jerry/153.htm
Question: What Pythagorean concepts were recognized by the Therapeutae?
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It is totally unconvincing that the Flavians, Josephus, and the Roman Church did not contribute to the corruption of Jesus’ ministry.
What comes with crucifixion, the destruction of the body, the destruction of the legacy, the destruction, banning, and corruption of the ministry.
I, the author of The Greatest Bible Study in Historical Accuracy, “nail my thesis” to the door of the Catholic Church and the Eastern Church/es : Queen Helena and King Izas must earn Sainthood (if they are not Mary and … Continue reading
I’ve replaced the November 28th, 2010 manuscript with the January 25th, 2011 manuscript of Insights on the Exodus, King David, and Jesus by Steefen.
Mailed my North TX Book Festival entry for delivery b4 the deadline. My entry was Insights on the Exodus, King David, and Jesus (also includes Adam & Eve and the 23rd Psalm / Psalm 23).
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